The Fourth Turning: What Comes Next for Arts & Culture?

S3E09 • Fri, Nov 13, 2026 • Duration: 60 minutes

S3E09 • Fri, Nov 13, 2026   • Duration: 60 mins

The Fourth Turning: What Comes Next for Arts & Culture?

What if waiting for things to return to normal is the biggest risk facing arts and culture?

From rising costs and financial pressure to changing audience behavior and declining subscription loyalty, arts leaders are navigating challenges that may not have short-term solutions.

But what if the models we've relied on for decades are no longer enough?

In this special episode of Leading the Way, TRG Arts CEO Jill Robinson brings together six arts leaders for a roundtable exploring The Fourth Turning, a theory of historical change that raises important questions about crisis, recovery and what comes next.

Drawing on their experiences across North America, the panel shares different perspectives on the future of arts and culture. From rethinking traditional subscriptions and audience loyalty to investing in growth and creating spaces where communities genuinely want to gather, the conversation challenges leaders to look beyond recovery and consider what they're building for the next generation.

A big thank you to our panelists for sharing their experiences, challenging assumptions and offering different perspectives on the future of arts and culture.

What's your biggest concern as you look towards 2030 and beyond? We'd love to hear what resonated most and what you're rethinking in your own institution.
 
This episode was originally broadcast as a live webinar round table on October 29, 2026.

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 Meet the panelists

4

Tinashe Kajese-Bolden

Jennings Hertz Artistic Director at Alliance Theatre
3

David Schmitz

Founder and Lead Advisor at Amplify Leadership Advisors and Interim Executive Director at American Conservatory Theater, San Francisco

6

Ben Cameron

Retired Foundation President

5

Gideon Arthurs

Incoming CEO at Harbourfront Centre

2

Jamie Herlich

Managing Director at ZACH Theater

1

Chad Bauman

Executive Director at Milwaukee Rep